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cae2100

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« on: November 06, 2016, 05:14:23 AM »

I figured I would try to get something to add here, but being unable to upload pics tends to put a damper on alot of it, but I ended up finding a video where it had a little bit of the machinery that I have.

I have a 9x40 monarch junior lathe from around 1916 from the info I found on it, a 7 inch rhodes shaper which I just completely rebuilt and restored and from what I can figure out, it's probably early to mid 1920s based off of the serial number on it, a 1900-1902 canedy and otto no 24 camelback drill press, and an old kneebuster blacksmithing vise from around 1890s-1910. (try using it and you'll know why I call it a kneebuster) So far, I have to say that the shaper is defenitly the one that Im most proud of and using the most usually.

Most of my metalworking stuff is 1890s-1925, and most of my woodworking stuff is 1951-1952, and is also made mostly of old cast iron. The scroll saw is a 5 inch scroll saw, which is extremely hard to find normal blades for anymore, but I just take coping saw blades, which is 5 inch and knock out the pins in them, it works just as well. Ive used it a few times to cut sprues off of aluminum castings since it's actually designed so that can be done and to cut hard lead and such. I primarilly use it tho for roughing out parts for patterns. which is handy because you can cut much bigger stuff really easily that you cant even try on a modern one. I also have an old cast iron table saw that I restored that I found just sitting in a barn that the guy just wanted out of his way and was nothing but solid rust as most of my machinery that come to me is.

I also have a little 1x30 belt sander that I had gotten from family for christmas, which is the newest thing that I have really, and the flimsiest thing too, lol. I also have a large craftsman toolbox that I found in the scrap pile to be junked, it had a few holes rusted in it, and the bottom handle had rusted off, but I took some swimming pool lining, the steel stuff that looks kinda like a 90 degree triangle with a small opening at the bottom to slip over the top of the wall of the swimming pool I think, I welded that onto the part of the drawer that had rusted off and patched up the other holes and such with sheet metal and bondo/primer, then gave it a nice coat of paint. It now looks like it just came out of the factory and you would never know that it was in that bad of shape. With the pool molding over the top of the drawer front, it adds major rigity and looks exactly like the other drawers. Without really looking really close, you wouldnt even notice that it was even different.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9gjosboloU

I know it's a mess, we have a 3 1/2 car garage and managed to fit 5 cars in there for storage, and my machinery until I get my shop finished. The color of blue that the woodworking stuff is a ford blue, so in person, its a deep blue color, but in the pics, it looks kinda crappy light blue for some reason.

My shop that we're building is maid mostly of oak rough wood, with the rough wood layered, which we've gotten much more done on the video below, so two sides are done and we have siding on it. Its a 12x16 building, so hopefully is big enough to store all of my stuff including my molding box and everything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elc6yr3Y2qM

Dont mind the junk in the building, the engine, I was planning on using to build my generator/air compressor, and the riding mower rear end, I was going to use to build a larger sand muller so I can mull more sand at a time, so thats why all of that stuff was there, lol.
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2016, 12:16:15 PM »

We have the same disease - my wife calls it "horizontal surface syndrome". I never met a horizontal surface I couldn't pile stuff on.  No cure unfortunately.  If you get more space there are just more surfaces.

I try to fight it - believe me I try. 

I like that little shaper - there are times one of those would be really handy.
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2016, 01:44:50 PM »

yea, I dont have any real storage for anything, so it's just sitting there for the time being till I can actually get it out of the garage and out of storage to put into the shop and into cupboards. Usually I my stuff all put away except what Im using, but I ended up with a bunch of old woodworking tools somehow and not sure what to do with any of them really yet.

That shaper was a total mess when I had gotten it, and was actually just a large pile of rust and it was actually rusted together so it was completely locked up. After I had gotten the thing running and the T nuts made, that thing has been in use almost nonstop when I was home machining castings. It gives a glass smooth finish and leaves really no machining marks, it just looks like a mirror when it's done taking a cut. Everyone always talked about how slow it is, but the way mine is, it just breezes through all of my stuff without any trouble and I can usually knock out a half a dozen castings per hour, which is about the same as a milling machine for me due, also when the bits go dull, I can just re-hone them and they're good to go again where as a milling cutter, you have to send it back out. Ive found it can do pretty much everything a milling machine can do for what I want to do, just some stuff you have to get a little more creative than others to actually machine it, lol.

The shaper has seriously been a godsend tbh when cleaning up the castings, the shaper just loves the cast aluminum and gives an extremely good finish. Ive also used it to machine some hardened steel holders for carbide bits so that I could fit them into my lathe, and it didnt even try with that. I just used HSS for that, and they had to be machined down a bit due to being over center height, so they were useless unless they were machined down. The bit was 3/4" tall, and from the washer on the tool post to the center height was 5/8ths, so a very small amount had to be removed.
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2016, 01:45:56 AM »

That is some nice looking vintage machinery there.

The shaper is a beauty to watch.
I can remember those things from days gone by, and I actually used one in about 1980.

If I had the space, I would consider getting a shaper.

Seems like the older machine tools were built much better than the new ones.
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2016, 01:53:25 AM »

yea, after I used a bridgeport, I got familiar with machining castings and work holding, but I would easily choose the shaper over the bridgeport any day of the week really, it's much cheaper on tooling, much slower but easier to run, and gives a far better finish imo, I never liked the swirled circle look that a milling machine leaves tbh and the shaper leaves almost like a ground finish on everything except extruded aluminum, which I dont deal with much anyhow. Also the fact that it easily machines hardened steel is a serious plus over a milling machine also along with the fact that I can shape, resharpen and rehone my own bits rather than having to send an already expensive bit out to be sharpened, which will cost more money, or just toss it and get new ones.
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2016, 02:07:03 AM »

Yep, I really like the idea of being able to use tool steel bits, and you even have the option of shaping the bits in different configurations.
Can't do that will a mill.
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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2017, 07:31:25 PM »

Here's my stuff, now that I am able to post pics on here, It'll fill out the page better with something that isnt in video form.
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2017, 03:19:22 PM »

That shop really turned out well.
I think you could sell plans for that.

And you have a nice collection of machine tools to go with it.
Doesn't get much better than that.
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2018, 12:52:57 AM »

Maybe this will post this time, it errored out last time.

I figured I'd show an update. Here's pics of the shop with most of the equipment moved in. The workbenches are up, shaper's in, and while they're not the newest up to date pics, not much has changed besides a bit of cleaning and the big shop vac is next to the drill press in it's perminant home and everything is picked up and not scattered everywhere. It's been so cold here that I cant even get the heater to run because it's frozen.

I was working on the saw and just took it to the shop today, but it's just the base of it, not any of the actual working parts. I also got the countershaft bearings put on it also, which I had to replace the ones that were on it, they were completely and utterly shot.
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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2018, 02:51:30 AM »

I noticed that this site does not tolerate very well file sized that are much bigger than about 200k.

I keep my photos between 100 k and 200 k.

I have the maximum file size very large, and a few years ago I did not have any problems uploading large files, but apparently the hosting service has degraded quite a bit over the years.
I locked a thread up the other day when I loaded a file that was too large, and had to set the topics per view to 1 and lop off the last post to restore the topic.
Annoying, but nothing I can do about it.

Your shop looks great, and those countertops look like granite.

And the saw is looking very good too.
Don't show it to the people you bought it from; they may want it back.

I have tried to turn over a new leaf in my shop and keep the floor clean at all times; which means every time I use a machine, I clean up immediately with the shop vac.
It seems to be the only way to keep up with the mess, ie: don't let any garbage/debris stay on the floor.
Many/most of the guys I see online have very clean shops (not everyone though), and unfortunately in the past I have tended to work to the point of exhaustion (often late into the night), and then skip the cleanup phase.  But I have found out the hard way that the cleanup phase has to be part of the process, and included on a daily basis, or it all gets out of hand very quickly.

We are continuing to have cold weather here (below freezing), and I have given up trying to work on the furnace because all the extension cords and other plastic items are frozen, and are trying to crack (or are cracking).
It is suppose to get warmer in the next few days, but with rain, so that is not much good for getting things done either.

Do you have an estimated run date on the lathe.
I want to see that thing going again (we need videos to watch while we are trapped indoors due to the weather).
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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2018, 03:17:57 AM »

yea, I didnt realize I had the camera set that high of resolution, Ill have to defenitely turn it back down. I wonder why the thread locked up, I thought that we had fixed that.

I was going to send her some pics of the saw because she kept asking if I had gotten around to working on it yet, lol. Ill probably send her pics of it and video of it running when I get it back together and to that point.

Im not sure of the ETA on the belts of the lathe, but evidently first thing monday morning, we're supposed to go to the parts store and pick up a serpentine belt to run on it for now. The shop is so cold atm that the heater wont even run, but it's supposed to go into the 30s next week, so hopefully it'll be enough just to get it to run. The oil on everything stopped being like oil at those temps and started acting like glue, which wouldnt let anything turn over very well, so I cant even use my drill press or shaper due to the oil being like syrup in them.

We were going to put a propane heater in there also that we have, but Im just kinda lerious of having anything with a flame even remotely around that building, lol.
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2018, 03:55:59 AM »

Yep, and carbon-monoxide can be a (deadly) problem too if not vented correctly.

That is the problem I am having here with the cold; things just don't want to work very well.
The only thing that works well at the lower temps is the siphon burner running diesel, but it does not matter if everything else is frozen stiff.
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